Politics and Music – MusicGeek.org http://www.musicgeek.org/wp Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:25:11 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.12 Politics and Music: Mark Berube http://www.musicgeek.org/wp/2008/09/12/politics-and-music-mark-berube http://www.musicgeek.org/wp/2008/09/12/politics-and-music-mark-berube#respond Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:23:17 +0000 http://www.musicgeek.org/wp/2008/09/12/politics-and-music-mark-berube Mark Berube and the Patriotic FewMark Berube, a Canadian indie musician who performs folk-inflected indie with his group, Mark Berube and the Patriotic Few, discusses his perspective on music and politics. This is the third in a series of interviews with musicians discussing political perspectives. 

What role do politics play in your music?

Politics in modern music can very easily have the tendency to be preachy. I avoid this sort of statement as much as I can, unless I really want to put some balls behind something. I prefer subtlety, like “Ojala,” by Silvio Rodriguez, probably one of the most potent and subtle statments made in a song against Castro.

Mark Berube and the Patriotic Few – “Flowers on the Stones” | download
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What role do you think music should play in politics?

Music has always been a reference point for society to bounce itself against, or it has been pure escapism. Most of the time it fills an entertainment quota in politics … you only have to look as far as Palin’s use of “Barracuda”.

Would you ever allow a mainstream political candidate to use your music in campaigning? Why or why not?

I honestly don’t think any politician is going to be asking to use one of my songs.

Would you consider throwing your endorsement behind a candidate you were passionate about?

One thing that was amazing about Gandhi for example, was that he never actually became a politician, ie. leading a party, but his presence and advice were so heavy he was able to operate outside the political realm but still have enormous clout. I would endorse someone like that, but not a politician.

Why are the political opinions of popular musicians such a hot topic with their fans?

It would be hard for some people to continue loving some folk singers music if they found out he was a leader of a KKK group. I know I would. Is it possible to truly separate someone and their political beliefs? Not sure…there are the famous examples Wagner, a huge anti-Semitic … Dali more or less complete fascist. Their art is amazing … but …

Do you think there are major problems with the modern political system? Does celebrity involvement play a part in this?

Modern politics have definitely become more slanderous in the public realm, to the point where it’s almost pathetic, i.e., Canada’s political campaigns right now. Either the contestants belittle their audiences with tried homegrown folksy semantics, slander each other, or dance around poignant questions. I have yet to hear an interview so far in the current Canadian campaign where one of them came off truly confident in what they’re saying and not trying to say answers they think people want to hear. The shape of the voice can be extremely telling. Of course this is a bit idealist, but better to start with the ideals then move down I figure. What did Churchill say … Democracy is the worst sort of government but better than all the other options.

Celebrity involvement … it’s always been there, just different celebrities now, maybe more pop culture based, which would explain the trajectory of today’s campaigns.

Are you following the 2008 U.S. elections? Are there any thoughts you’d like to share on what you’ve seen?

Yeah, I’m following it a bit. I’m definitely pro Obama. It’s interesting that so many Republicans worry about him having no international experience when they elected Bush II, and he’d hardly ever been out of America, and very obviously failed geography class in elementary school. He actually seems a hell of a lot more proactive, whereas McCain fills the typical aged reactive approach. I think a lot of people are tired of that approach … and McCain dies and Palin is suddenly leading the US …

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Politics and Music: Jon Crocker, ever-touring folk artist http://www.musicgeek.org/wp/2008/09/08/politics-and-music-jon-crocker-ever-touring-folk-artist http://www.musicgeek.org/wp/2008/09/08/politics-and-music-jon-crocker-ever-touring-folk-artist#respond Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:20:01 +0000 http://www.musicgeek.org/wp/2008/09/08/politics-and-music-jon-crocker-ever-touring-folk-artist Jon Crocker in Cedar City, UtahJon Crocker, the ever-touring folk artist, discusses his perspective on music and politics. This is the second in a series of interviews with musicians discussing political perspectives.

What role do politics play in your music?

Not a very large one … if I ever write topical songs, they’re usually about social or environmental issues as opposed to political ones, and even with those issues I don’t really write about the political sides.

What role do you think music should play in politics?

I think that should be up to the musicians. If someone wants to make political music, they should. I think songwriters should write about whatever they are passionate about.

Jon Crocker – “Six Day Sinners’ Son” | download
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Jon Crocker in Cedar City, UtahWould you ever allow a mainstream political candidate to use your music in campaigning? Why or why not?

Yes, I would, but only if they paid me lots of money and I had no major objections to their platform.

Would you consider throwing your endorsement behind a candidate you were passionate about?

Well, first, I’d have to feel passionately about a candidate. I suppose that if I did, i would endorse them and whatnot. but I don’t.

Why are the political opinions of popular musicians such a hot topic with their fans?

I’m not really sure about this one, but it might explain why I’m not a big fan of Ted Nugent.

Do you think there are major problems with the modern political system? Does celebrity involvement play a part in this?

Oh yes, I think there are many major problems with the modern system, but celebrity involvement has very little to do with that. Mostly ,I think it’s the result of letting a bunch of rich assholes run your homeland and of the dissenting public not be able to stand up and speak their minds without being shot by rubber bullets.

Are you following the 2008 U.S. elections? Are there any thoughts you’d like to share on what you’ve seen?

I haven’t been able to follow them very much yet, as I’ve been overseas for months. but I’ll say that Europeans seem very keen on Obama. They’re all keen on having an intelligent person be US president. They’re crazy.

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Politics and Music: Jordan Olsen, guitarist with The Gorgeous Hussies http://www.musicgeek.org/wp/2008/09/04/politics-and-music-jordan-olsen-guitarist-with-the-gorgeous-hussies http://www.musicgeek.org/wp/2008/09/04/politics-and-music-jordan-olsen-guitarist-with-the-gorgeous-hussies#respond Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:08:19 +0000 http://www.musicgeek.org/wp/2008/09/04/politics-and-music-jordan-olsen-guitarist-with-the-gorgeous-hussies Jordan Olsen, guitarist with The Gorgeous Hussies, discusses politics and music from his perspective.Jordan Olsen, guitarist with The Gorgeous Hussies, discusses his perspective of music and politics. This is the first in a series of interviews with musicians discussing political perspectives.

What role do politics play in your music?

On the whole I don’t think mainstream politics, per se, play a significant role in how I write and perform music. There hasn’t been an issue I’ve been so passionate about that I’d be willing to use my music to preach about it. That’s just not my style. However, I have written a few songs that present a larger comment on society and how we treat each other, which, I guess, is the crux of politics. So in that aspect maybe I have?

On The Gorgeous Hussies’ first CD Oh! Hello I wrote a song called “Dangerously Similar.” It’s based on the Israeli/Hezbollah conflict in the summer of 2006. I was watching CNN and watched Israeli troops fighting with Hezbollah troops and I couldn’t tell who was who. I couldn’t help but think that beyond the politics and ethnic conflict these people were first and foremost fathers and mothers but how at that moment they were “dangerously similar”. It’s not really an anti-war song, rather a comment on people who at their core are very similar but find themselves trying to kill each other.

The Gorgeous Hussies – “Dangerously Similar”
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The Gorgeous Hussies, live at The GrindThe other song is one called “Weigh It Out,” which will be on The Gorgeous Hussies’ forthcoming CD tentatively titled Six Radio Friendly Jams & Some Filler. The song discusses how often people focus so intently on our political differences rather than our human similarities. The lyrics are…

I’ve seen the best of every side,
And both proclaim that they are right,
And missed the mark so many times,
I made rash decisions out of spite.
We’ve pushed all reason out the door,
Dug up mistakes we’ve made before,
While ushering in a brand new era of complete disaster!

[Chorus]
But when I close my eyes,
I start to realize,
We’re all the same inside.
And is there something more,
That we’ve chosen to ignore,
A greater truth we cannot hide.
You tell me I can do no wrong,
All sense of reason’s dead and gone,
Spinning the words to hide the guilt you’ve felt inside for so long.
I understand the thrill you find,
Free from constraints inside your mind,
The error of our ways will surely bind us all in time!

What role do you think music should play in politics?

If your focus as a musician is to try and use music as a catalyst for political activism then obviously it plays a big role. However, I have a hard time with musicians (and movie stars) who are politically focused. Politics so often drives a wedge between people. People aren’t always able to see the art beyond the politics, you know what I mean? And I include myself in there. Look at what happened with The Dixie Chicks. By voicing their political opinion they drove a huge wedge between them and many of their fans. I’m not saying I agree with their comments one way or the other, I’m just saying you take the chance of alienating a lot of people by exposing your politics.

I learned this lesson first hand. I post regularly on a Salt Lake City based message board full of local musicians. A lot of the threads are often about politics. I have a differing opinion than the majority of musicians on the site. About a year ago I tried booking my band at two SLC venues and the bookers both told me they wouldn’t book my band because of my ‘political views’. I saw first hand how expressing your point of view can impact your career with people who aren’t tolerant or accepting of differing points of view. Since then I try to keep my politics separate from my music. We’ll see if this interview has any negative impact. ;)

Would you ever allow a mainstream political candidate to use your music in campaigning? Why or why not?

Depends on how hard up I was for cash. ;) But really I don’t know that I would. Like I said in my last comment, politics drives a wedge between a lot of people; people who I would normally find a lot in common with when it comes to music and art and basic desires in life. I want to share my music with as many people as possible so I would probably think twice before potentially alienating myself from half the population.

The Gorgeous Hussies, live at The GrindWould you consider throwing your endorsement behind a candidate you were passionate about?

Doubtful. I’m a fan of musicians and movie stars who practice their craft for the sake of art, not because they’re trying to shove their politics down my throat.

Why are the political opinions of popular musicians such a hot topic with their fans?

People are social creatures and I think people like it when their own political opinion is validated by someone they look up to. They like to know they’re part of a group/team and when someone they look up to feels similarly about an issue as they do it helps to solidify that sense of belonging.

Do you think there are major problems with the modern political system? Does celebrity involvement play a part in this?

Yes, I think all political systems have flaws. I don’t think that’s because of celebrity involvement, rather, human involvement. Humans are all imperfect and a system run by humans is ultimately going to also be imperfect. But that’s ok. We shouldn’t be seeking perfection, rather, the best outcome we can create. And I think politicians on both sides of the isle are trying to achieve the best outcome, as they see it. Now, whether you and I agree with the way in which they/we try to achieve these “best outcomes” is up for debate.

Are you following the 2008 U.S. elections? Are there any thoughts you’d like to share on what you’ve seen?

Yes, I follow the Presidential election closely each day. I think both campaigns have very strong candidates and it’s been a very dramatic race. There are two things I really like about this upcoming election as opposed to the past few elections.

#1: These candidates have very differing ideas on how to move our country forward. So often in the past we heard “there’s no difference between the two. I’ll just pick the lesser of two evils”. I think people have a very contrasting choice this election when it comes down to these candidate’s positions on specific issues. Choice is good!

#2: No matter who is elected, this is going to be an historic move forward for women and minorities in the US. I don’t think anyone’s vote should necessarily come down to race or gender and ignore the issues facing us, but it’s great to know we’re all part of a historic event that’ll take place this November.

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